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issue221:mon_opinion [2025/09/30 09:14] – d52fr | issue221:mon_opinion [2025/09/30 10:08] (Version actuelle) – d52fr | ||
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Currently, there are a few (and getting fewer!) easy accessible options where users can get help on Linux issues, in the local vernacular particularly. Lots of times there are n00b questions, like, I’m new to Linux what is the best distro? Or, what is the best app to do x or y. While I think that people need to learn to ask better questions, myself included, we are also products of our cultural influences. (For instance, listening to the radio, or conversations, | Currently, there are a few (and getting fewer!) easy accessible options where users can get help on Linux issues, in the local vernacular particularly. Lots of times there are n00b questions, like, I’m new to Linux what is the best distro? Or, what is the best app to do x or y. While I think that people need to learn to ask better questions, myself included, we are also products of our cultural influences. (For instance, listening to the radio, or conversations, | ||
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+ | Je viens de regarder une vidéo YouTube dans laquelle un streamer Twitch aux cheveux longs commentait (il a dit « logiciel pirate », je ne sais pas s'il s'agit du nom de la chaîne ou du pseudonyme) qui semblait s' | ||
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**You’d have to admit, that if someone told you their fridge stopped running, and asked you, how to fix it? We could all agree that one needs more information. Lets face it, a fridge is a fairly simple appliance, but just saying that it stopped running, tells you nothing. While this is frustrating to someone trying to help, a comment like, “move to Alaska, so you don’t need it”, is not helping the situation. | **You’d have to admit, that if someone told you their fridge stopped running, and asked you, how to fix it? We could all agree that one needs more information. Lets face it, a fridge is a fairly simple appliance, but just saying that it stopped running, tells you nothing. While this is frustrating to someone trying to help, a comment like, “move to Alaska, so you don’t need it”, is not helping the situation. | ||
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While I like to type the word n00b, as it stands out, (catches the eye) some people may think that I’m talking down to a new user, but I’m not. I kind of giggle when people call me a n00b somewhere, as being the n00b allows me some liberties. For me, these are just words on a screen that convey no emotion - any emotion you find in the word n00b, you put there. The same could be said for the word “newbie”.** | While I like to type the word n00b, as it stands out, (catches the eye) some people may think that I’m talking down to a new user, but I’m not. I kind of giggle when people call me a n00b somewhere, as being the n00b allows me some liberties. For me, these are just words on a screen that convey no emotion - any emotion you find in the word n00b, you put there. The same could be said for the word “newbie”.** | ||
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+ | Après ce genre de questions de débutant, viennent les commentaires futés du genre « Lisez ce foutu manuel », ou les commentaires vraiment inutiles, voire carrément méchants. Là, je me demande : pourquoi vous mêlez-vous de ça ? C'est là que la vidéo YouTube m'a interpellé. Les gens pensent que leur avis compte (et on y reviendra). Ils ne prennent pas la peine de lire les commentaires précédents et veulent juste exprimer leur opinion. Pour ceux qui veulent vraiment aider, il faut maintenant se frayer un chemin à travers les marais pour savoir si le votre commentaire a été appliqué ou non. L' | ||
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+ | J'aime bien taper le mot « n00b » (novice), car il attire le regard. Certains pourraient penser que je parle avec condescendance à un nouvel utilisateur, | ||
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**I used to work for an OEM and had to join lots of forums for manufacturers and to get issues sorted out with compatibility between brands, for instance and I would gladly be the n00b if I needed help. However, these types of forums are a lot more professional, | **I used to work for an OEM and had to join lots of forums for manufacturers and to get issues sorted out with compatibility between brands, for instance and I would gladly be the n00b if I needed help. However, these types of forums are a lot more professional, | ||
While I don’t advocate for AI, it could be helpful in pointing users to resources based on the content of their questions. I mean, you do not need to answer the same question over-and-over-and-over of “I forgot my password on Ubuntu, how to reset?” when it can point them to a knowledge base (KB) immediately, | While I don’t advocate for AI, it could be helpful in pointing users to resources based on the content of their questions. I mean, you do not need to answer the same question over-and-over-and-over of “I forgot my password on Ubuntu, how to reset?” when it can point them to a knowledge base (KB) immediately, | ||
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+ | Bien que je ne sois pas un fervent défenseur de l'IA, elle pourrait être utile pour orienter les utilisateurs vers des ressources en fonction du contenu de leurs questions. Inutile de répondre sans cesse à la même question : « J' | ||
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**Getting back to the other point, some people just want to add their two cents, they think their opinion matters or it will change anything. Telling a Cinnamon user to switch to KDE is not helpful. Yes, you may find KDE easier, but they may not, also it is your opinion and it does to solve the problem the user has, of connecting their phone to their computer. Though as a whole, we have to be open and welcoming to new users of Linux, we also somehow need to eliminate the common questions that you see every day and also keep the channels clear of the Dunning-Kruger type of users, who have installed some obscure i3-looking desktop and think they are superior to new users who are struggling and leave nasty comments. | **Getting back to the other point, some people just want to add their two cents, they think their opinion matters or it will change anything. Telling a Cinnamon user to switch to KDE is not helpful. Yes, you may find KDE easier, but they may not, also it is your opinion and it does to solve the problem the user has, of connecting their phone to their computer. Though as a whole, we have to be open and welcoming to new users of Linux, we also somehow need to eliminate the common questions that you see every day and also keep the channels clear of the Dunning-Kruger type of users, who have installed some obscure i3-looking desktop and think they are superior to new users who are struggling and leave nasty comments. | ||
If I look at it from the perspective of a maintainer of free software, I can understand the frustration when people who don’t donate just “demand” things and I also understand that there are people who use Linux because they cannot afford software. But! I’m not talking about those, I’m talking about the common everyday Linux n00b asking a question somewhere that is open to everyone, like say, facebook, as that is all they know. I won’t say social media as a whole, as I find that to me mostly empty cans making the most noise.** | If I look at it from the perspective of a maintainer of free software, I can understand the frustration when people who don’t donate just “demand” things and I also understand that there are people who use Linux because they cannot afford software. But! I’m not talking about those, I’m talking about the common everyday Linux n00b asking a question somewhere that is open to everyone, like say, facebook, as that is all they know. I won’t say social media as a whole, as I find that to me mostly empty cans making the most noise.** | ||
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+ | En tant que mainteneur de logiciels libres, je comprends la frustration quand des gens qui ne font pas de dons se contentent d'« exiger » des choses, et je comprends aussi que certains utilisent Linux parce qu'ils n'ont pas les moyens d' | ||
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**To N00bs, I want to say, put as much effort into the question you are asking, stating what you have read and tried before asking, as equivalent to the effort that you would expect in explaining the answer. A quick search in the forum also never hurt anyone before asking your question. Never write off real people and real answers related to their experience, for AI slop. The glue may keep the cheese on the pizza, but the following diarrhoea won’t be fun. | **To N00bs, I want to say, put as much effort into the question you are asking, stating what you have read and tried before asking, as equivalent to the effort that you would expect in explaining the answer. A quick search in the forum also never hurt anyone before asking your question. Never write off real people and real answers related to their experience, for AI slop. The glue may keep the cheese on the pizza, but the following diarrhoea won’t be fun. | ||
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If you think I was picking on facebook, maybe I was, but you have to admit, that there are still ‘eedjits’ on there that post crap like, 1like = 1prayer or send this to everyone, Bill Gates will share his wealth, just saying...** | If you think I was picking on facebook, maybe I was, but you have to admit, that there are still ‘eedjits’ on there that post crap like, 1like = 1prayer or send this to everyone, Bill Gates will share his wealth, just saying...** | ||
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+ | Aux novices, je tiens à dire : consacrez autant d' | ||
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+ | J’ai mentionné l’IA comme une solution possible, mais je veux dire qu’il pourrait aussi y avoir des solutions manuelles, obligeant l’utilisateur à lire les règles et les questions fréquentes avant d’être autorisé à poster. Il faudrait, lorsqu’un utilisateur pose une question, l' | ||
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+ | Si vous pensez que je m'en prenais à Facebook, peut-être, mais il faut admettre qu'il y a encore des « imbéciles » qui postent des conneries du genre : « 1 like = 1 prière » ou qui envoient à tout le monde, Bill Gates partagera sa fortune, juste pour dire… | ||
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